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Facebook User1
(Warning: long rant)
My liberal friends are
completely oblivious about how radicalizing the
last week has been for tens of millions of
normal Americans. Zero clue.
I’m not talking about
people who are “online”; I mean regular,
everyday Americans. “Normies.” People who scroll
through Facebook posts and Instagram reels from
the Dutch Bros drive thru line. Political
moderates who have water cooler chats about
Mahomes touchdowns and Bon Jovi concerts, not
Twitter threads or Rachel Maddow monologues.
Millions of them. Tens of
millions. They’re logging on, they’re engaging,
and they’re furious.
And I’ll be candid: They
blame you guys. They blame the left.
Regardless of whether you
believe it to be justified, they think you’re
the bad guys here. And they are reacting
accordingly.
I can already hear some of
you racing toward the comments to start
screeching in moral indignation, so I’m going to
be blunt: Shut up and listen to what I’m telling
you. Your movement will lose any semblance of
relevance if you don’t develop some small
measure of self-awareness, and—absent someone
force-feeding you bitter medicine—you guys
collectively lack the humility to do this on
your own.
Here are the facts:
Fact 1. Tens of millions of
Americans started the week seeing a 23-year-old
blonde woman—a young woman in whom virtually
every parent watching pictured their own
daughter—stabbed in the neck by a career
criminal. These people then found out the
murderer had been released from jail 14 times
over.
Fact 2. Two days later,
tens of millions of Americans watched a video of
Charlie Kirk get murdered speaking to college
students. Millions of these people knew who
Charlie was; millions of them didn’t. Upon
seeing the video, however, these normal
Americans from across the land and across the
political spectrum agreed that he was the victim
of a terrible, fundamentally unjustifiable
crime, and their hearts broke in sympathy for
his family. Good people who had never even heard
the name Charlie Kirk before wept.
Fact 3. Immediately after
seeing the footage of a peaceful young man get
shot in the neck, these same people logged onto
Facebook and Instagram (remember, we are talking
about regular Americans, not perpetually online
Twitter or Bluesky users) and saw some of their
local nurses, school teachers, college
administrators, and retail workers celebrating
this horrific crime. Not just defending it, but
cheering it.
These are all facts. You
may not like the implications of these facts,
and we can certainly debate the underlying
causes thereof, but, indisputably, they are
nevertheless factual statements.
Here’s what it means for
you, the Democrats reading this:
These normal,
middle-of-the-road, non-political citizens just
become politically active. They realized that
politics cares about them, even if they don’t
particularly care about politics. After watching
Iryna Zarutska and Charlie Kirk both bleed out
from the neck, they think their lives and the
physical safety of their families—the bedrock of
human society, the foundation of Maslow’s
hierarchy of needs—depend on political
activation, whether they desire it or not.
These people are now
sprinting—not jogging, not walking, but
racing—to the right. Because they blame you guys
for everything that just happened.
When they see footage of
Decarlos Brown stabbing a Ukrainian refugee to
death, they don’t see just one demon-possessed
man. They picture every university
administrator, HR bureaucrat, and DEI
apparatchik that ever lectured them about
systemic racism, the “carceral state,” or the
need to release violent crime suspects without
bail in the name of social justice.
They then think back to
conversations they’ve had with their cop
friends—their buddy from high school who quit
the force after getting tired of being called a
racist, their friend at the local YMCA who vents
about having to release career criminals because
Soros-funded prosecutors aren’t willing to file
charges—and they realize everything the left has
told them over the last five years has been
utter bullshit.
And they blame you.
Because, even if you count yourself as a
moderate Democrat, your party supported the
district attorneys, city council members, and
mayors that let fictitious concerns about mental
health and racial justice supersede very real
concerns for their family’s safety.
When these Americans see
blood erupt from the side of Charlie Kirk’s
neck, they don’t see just a martyred political
activist. They think of every extreme leftist
they’ve ever met who (1) calls anyone to the
right of Hillary Clinton a fascist and (2)
constantly jokes—“jokes”—about punching Nazis
and “bashing the fash.”
They realize that there
really do exist people who wish to see them dead
for their moderately conservative political
beliefs, their Christian faith, and even the
color of their skin. They ask themselves if the
violence visited upon Charlie might one day show
up on their own doorstep.
And they blame you.
Because, even if you’re just a
center-of-the-road liberal, you lacked the
courage to police your own ranks. You let
modern-day Maoist red guards run loose across
every facet of society, and what started with
social-media struggle sessions has now turned to
30-06 bullet holes.
When these Americans log
onto social media and see their neighbors
justifying, celebrating, glorifying murder, they
realize that some who walk among them are
soulless ghouls at best, literally
demon-possessed at worst. These people—whether
they faithfully attend church every Sunday or
only attend with relatives once a year, on
Christmas Eve—start talking about things like
spiritual warfare. They implicitly understand
that no normal human casually celebrates the
mortal demise of a peaceful person.
And they blame you.
Because, even if you condemned Charlie Kirk’s
murder, they probably haven’t seen you condemn
those in your own movement who cheered it on.
They view you as complicit in allowing heartless
fellow travelers to celebrate death, and it
repulses them.
For all of these
situations, what has your response been? Nothing
but bullshit.
In response to Iryna
Zarutska bleeding out on the floor of a train,
you post bullshit statistics about reductions in
reported crime, when everyone who’s ever been to
a major urban center in the last decade knows
that actual crime has skyrocketed, only for
victims not to waste their time reporting it to
cops that don’t have the manpower to respond and
prosecutors that seek to downgrade as many
felonies as possible to misdemeanor citations.
In response to a
31-year-old man taking a bullet to the neck in
front of his family, you post nothing but
bullshit whataboutism.
> “What about January 6th?”
(Honest answer: After you let Liz Cheney spend
two years operating a star chamber in the House,
combined with countless other failed attempts at
“lawfare” against Trump, no one cares anymore.)
> “What about Mike Lee
making a dumb joke on Twitter about some guy in
a mask in Minnesota?” (No one outside of Utah,
DC, or Twitter knows who Mike Lee even is.)
> “What about Paul Pelosi?”
(That’s not comparable to Charlie Kirk getting
shot, and we all know it. And, again, Paul who?)
> “What about regulations
on assault rifles?” (That’s not going to get you
very far when one of these killers used a knife
and the other one used a common hunting rifle.)
In response to teachers,
healthcare workers, and thousands of other
liberals cheering on Charlie’s murder, it’s
nothing but more bullshit and misdirection.
> “It’s not THAT many
people celebrating!” (Yes, it is. Everyone has
seen it on their Facebook and Instagram feeds.)
> “I thought you guys
didn’t support cancel culture.” (We don’t cancel
people over their opinions; we’re more than
happy to see people lose their jobs—especially
their taxpayer-funded jobs—for actively cheering
on murder, though. If you can’t see the
difference, that’s your own shortcoming.)
All bullshit. Not even
smart bullshit, but stale, mid-grade, low-IQ
bullshit. Ordinary Americans see right through
it, and they don’t like how it smells.
You probably don’t like
hearing this. But you need to hear it.
Because I’m right, and, as
you reflect on this, you know I’m right. The
ranks of my political movement gained millions
of righteously angry new members this week. We
have a mandate to ensure these crimes never
happen again, and that’s exactly what we are now
going to do.
If you want to keep a seat
at the table as we do so, you’d better clean
house and start policing your own.
Facebook User1
What they also don’t understand is the effect
this past week has had up and down the political
spectrum. It has simultaneously done two things:
1.
For anyone normie moderate to far right, it has
moved ALL OF THEM farther right. It’s not just
that independents or conservative Dems are
coming to Team GOP; rather, people on the MAGA
right and the far right are also moving farther
right. This is quite bad for the left, because
the he right, which has a tendency to live IRL
and not consistently engage in activism, is
going to get WAY more active and isn’t going to
put up with the left’s bullshit anymore. A
leftist tries to cancel us for our views? So
what, we’re gonna think of the video of Charlie
Kirk bleeding out and we’re not going to be
afraid.
2.
But probably even worse, is that it has likely
further emboldened the 5-10% of the country
comprised of far-left freaks. Their actions are
going to further enrage normies and the right,
and the Democratic Party is going to be in a
no-win situation where it’s has to either pull
back from its far left base, to likely
disastrous results, or continue to lean-in to
its far left base, again likely to disastrous
results.
Facebook User2
Amen to all of this!
Facebook User3
well
said. add in all the usaid fraud that was
discovered, the act blue fraud, the walk-aways
that are leaving the left and its really shown
to be waking not "a" bear but dens of bears.
people got pissed and rightly so.. the lefts
reaction to potus dealing with crime in DC and
talking chicago and LA also adds to the demise
of the left, they are against law and order even
after the everyday people talk on camera saying
that its needed. so much crazy..... I call it
sos syndrome, stuck on stupid.
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Paul Fitz-Gibbon III
Wow! Facebook User1, A lot of divisive,
inflammatory and incendiary misinformation. I
can’t let this go.
I
agree with you on one thing right away — both
the stabbing in Charlotte and Charlie Kirk’s
murder are horrific tragedies. Nobody should
ever be attacked like that, and it’s
heartbreaking for the families involved.
Politically motivated violence sets a dangerous
precedent.
I
can understand why the right is so upset. He was
a true leader and possible successor to trump –
respect.
That said, some of the details in the post you
shared are a bit overstated.
First, on the Charlotte case — yes, the man
accused had 14 prior arrests. But “14 arrests”
isn’t the same thing as 14 free passes from
jail. Some charges get dropped, some end in
probation, some in short sentences. That’s how
the justice system works under due process.
It’s misleading to act like judges just waved
him out 14 times with no consequences. If we
want to fix the system, let’s talk about bail
reform, mental health resources, and consistency
in prosecution — not just throw out an arrest
number as if it proves everything. It’s not as
simple as saying “14 arrests = system failed.”
With Charlie Kirk, his killing is a shocking and
unjustifiable crime. Most people across the
political spectrum have condemned it. It’s true
that a few individuals online made horrible
celebratory comments, not unlike the comments
from the radicalized right when figures on the
left are attacked, some would argue it's worse
and much much more prevalent from the right and
yes your right in some cases, people have faced
consequences for that. But the idea that
“nurses, teachers, and everyday workers
everywhere” are cheering it on isn’t accurate —
what we’re really seeing is a small number of
extreme voices getting amplified on social media
by cosplay political pundits.
Just as troubling, maybe more so because of
their wide audience, is Jesse Waters, Steve
Bannon, Brian Kilmeade and many other talking
heads on the right including trump who are
calling for war on the left and locking up all D
politicians. Can you imagine the outrage if
someone on the right said killing the homeless
with lethal injection might be a good idea like
Brian Klmeade just recently did.
To
me, the bigger issue is: what can we do to
prevent tragedies like these? That means looking
at real solutions — strengthening community
safety, investing in mental health, making sure
dangerous repeat offenders don’t slip through
cracks, and lowering the temperature in our
political culture so violence isn’t normalized.
OR….. I guess we could just crack some heads and
lock everybody up. Just like the economy, I
guess we’ll just have to wait and see how that
works out.
At
the end of the day, I think most Americans —
left or right — don’t want political violence,
don’t want young women murdered on trains, and
don’t want to see people celebrating death
online. That’s the common ground we should be
building from.
Before I offer my retort, regarding my fears
before the election.
I’m not
going to say I told you so and I’m not going to
point out how much worse it is or how much
sooner it’s all happening.
I
won’t talk about it looking like the leader of
our country, undeniably was, if not a pedophile
himself at least very very good friends with the
most prolific one of our times during the time
he was the most active and well after it was
common knowledge.
And at the best looked he other way, like all
the other enablers and at the worst participated
heartily (doubtful as trump is kinda on the
prudish side :)
I
won’t talk about the “secret” trump mentions in
the birthday card with the pre-pubescent girl he
drew and signed and gave to Epstein?
I
won't mention the girl they shared and trump is
on record “paying” Epstein $27K for with a 10ft
photographed check (you don’t see that on state
run propaganda channels do you - thats why I
won't talk about it).
I
won’t talk about the excuses everyone is making
for his pedo-proclivities (kinda like you're
doing in your mind right now and the rest of his
friends and the GOP have been doing for years)
I
won’t talk about any of the 1000’s of very
incriminating epstein emails you may not have
heard about on right-wing media that are about
to come out that completely disprove trumps
timeline of disavowing epstiens behavior, let
alone kick him out of MarLago.
I
won’t talk about the Amateur Hour our foreign
policy has become (and I guess now our FBI too
huh - big surprise there)
I
won’t talk about RFK Jr and all the eradicated
diseases that are already coming back or how
soon it took trump to alienate us from the rest
of the world and turn us into a laughing stock.
putin, Ukraine, NATO, Poland.
Care to
debate National Security and the people trump
put in position compared to sleepy Joe? or
really any measurable metric, financial or
otherwise that determines a functioning society.
As
you know If we use facts and stats, you can't,
or should we just fire all the people at Dept of
Labor and Statistics and all the left wing
talking heads that trump hasn't silenced. Facts
Matter and so does Justice.
I
won’t mention all of the people in the middle
who voted for trump to fix our immigration
policies and lower prices and inflation who are
realizing they were conned and all they voted
for was a major tax decrease for the rich
And who soon will realize within a couple
months (January to be exact) they are either
going to lose their health insurance or see it
go up by hundreds and hundreds of dollars. (I’m
a health insurance agent, I’m already getting
calls)
I won’t talk about the civil
unrest and violence being fomented from the
right that Jesse Waters, Gutfeld, Bannon
specifically, and the entire maga ecosphere
including yourself, all the loonies from the far
right podcasts, like Info Wars and War Room et
al, and all the macho militia men gangs, but
mostly the Leader of our Nation, by saying we
are at war and posting childish Apocalypse Now
war memes
It’s almost like he’s trying to incite enough
unrest and violence to enact marshal law.
I
won’t mention Elon Musk yesterday calling for
open violence, saying “Violence is coming for
you, You either fight back or you die” What the
actual FU@K is he trying to do!!
I
won’t talk about trumps absolute inability to
unify a nation, I won’t mention every leading
democrat I can think of trying to promote peace
and unity right now.
I
won’t ask what you are most proud of trump doing
right now, or if you agree the rest of the
Epstein/trump files should be released or if the
perps should be protected. I won’t talk about
any of that even though lots of people ARE
talking….as you know. Because that would be a
distraction.
I
won’t talk about any of that because I know you
have no logical argument anymore and anything
you say would be obfuscation, distraction,
misinformation, ad hominem attacks or lately
just obvious heavy projection. Can’t touch
that!!
One murderer doesn’t represent Democrats any
more than one corrupt pedo-politician represents
all Republicans. Blaming millions of people is
just scapegoating and fear-mongering.
Red states actually have much much higher murder
rates than blue states. Crime isn’t partisan. –
This isn’t up for debate.
Mental health and racial justice aren’t
‘fictitious’ — ignoring them makes us less safe,
not more.
Paul Fitz-Gibbon III
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OK, Facebook User 1 on behalf of the I’m
sure very few OC Dems in your circle who are
afraid to….. Allow me to retort.
Yes — the Charlotte case is horrific, Charlie
Kirk’s death is tragic and shocking. Social
media reactions—some celebratory—are real and
disturbing. That’s just wrong.
Yes, the man accused had 14 prior arrests. But
“14 arrests” isn’t the same thing as 14 free
passes from jail. Some charges get dropped, some
end in probation, some in short sentences.
That’s how the justice system works under due
process.
It’s misleading to act like judges just waved
him out 14 times with no consequences. If we
want to fix the system, let’s talk about bail
reform, mental health resources, and consistency
in prosecution — not just throw out an arrest
number as if it proves everything. Now, I’m sure
he probably shouldn’t have been on the street,
but let’s not inflame the situation, Ok Scott?
Of
course Kirks murder is tragic. But saying “tens
of millions” saw the video and wept is rhetoric,
not fact. Most Americans didn’t see it, and
nobody has actual numbers to back up that claim.
The idea that “nurses, teachers, college admins,
and retail workers” were out celebrating Kirk’s
death is a massive exaggeration. What actually
happened is a handful of people online posted
disgusting comments, and some of them got
disciplined for it.
That’s not evidence of a nationwide cheering
section in everyday professions — it’s evidence
that social media gives a megaphone to a few
idiots. Pretending it’s widespread only feeds
division. We can be better.
So
yes, the tragedies are real. But turning them
into talking points that generalize millions of
Americans and imply one side is full of
criminals and the other side are victims isn’t
honest.
It’s like saying anyone who supports trump is a
pedophile and a racist. If we really care about
preventing more violence, we should focus on
real solutions — better community safety, more
accountability for dangerous offenders, and
lowering the toxic rhetoric that makes
extremists think violence is justified.
Social media amplifies extreme voices — a few
people’ celebrating will often get a lot more
attention than the many people who didn’t. That
doesn’t justify the celebrating, but it suggests
that those incidents may not represent a large
fraction.
Let’s separate facts from fear-mongering. First,
the tragedies themselves — the deaths of the
girl on the train Iryna Zarutska and Charlie
Kirk — are horrific, and nobody disputes that.
But claiming that every Democrat is personally
responsible for violent crime or social media
trolls is absurd.
One murderer does not represent an entire
political party even if he comes from a full
MAGA family and has pictures of himself online
as a MAGA BRO all kitted out in trump regalia
like the Kirk assassin does. I DON’T think all
maga members are assassins. See how that works.
Second, the claim that bail reform, racial
justice initiatives, or concern for mental
health somehow “supersede safety” is misleading.
Bail reform in most places applies to low-level,
nonviolent offenders, not murderers, besides; as
you know more murders come from red states than
blue. Stop with the crime fear mongering,
toughen up or just arm yourself if it makes you
feel better, but don’t talk to me about the left
being soft on crime, while hastily hired masked
ICE cowards cosplay as army men all around the
blue states of the US. And who moved Gislane to
a minimum sec prison after saying to trumps
personal atty “oh trump did nothing he was a
boyscout”? (uh oh looks like the emails
completely blow that out of the water – timeline
anyone
)
who pardoned all the j6 criminals? Oh yeah
donald trump did and moved that pedo friend of
his to Club Fed so she wouldn’t sing – too late
as you’ll soon see that genie is out of the
bottle.
Don’t talk to me about crime, the right has
absolutely no leg to stand on regarding crime.
Policing our own is laughable coming from a R.
Do you remember Al Franken and that stupid
LeeAnn Tweeded pic that we kicked him out of
congress over, How quaint and what a mistake. Do
you want me to name more examples of the left
policing themselves, because I certainly can? Do
you want me to go down the list of the myriad of
republican criminal’s trump surrounds himself
with. OK, then would you want to list the
criminals that the Dems champion? Can you think
of ONE time the right has policed themselves.
Take your time. I didn’t think so. Do you see a
pattern? I didn’t think so – SAD open your eyes
and let your mind go.
Mental health resources are meant to prevent
violence, not excuse it. These are tools to
improve public safety, not reduce it.
Third, the post assumes that a few extreme
social media posts reflect the beliefs of
millions of Americans. That’s simply false.
Amplified online outrage is not a proxy for
broad political ideology or party complicity. I
disagree with lots of things the left does. Most
Americans, left or right, condemn murder and
don’t celebrate it.
Finally, framing Democrats as “complicit”
because some people online act badly is exactly
the kind of moral panic that divides Americans
and prevents real solutions. If you care about
safety — I do and you should too — we should
focus on actual reforms: stronger policing of
violent offenders, better mental health support,
and addressing the root causes of crime, not
blaming millions of people for the actions of a
few.
Are you saying jan 6 didn’t happen? Because it
obviously did and everyone knows trump got off
on a technicality with a supreme court he
installed. Everyone knows he would be in jail if
he wasn’t reelected and that wasn’t the case.
That is irrefutable so don’t try. It seems your
entire identity and online persona revolves
around trump and maga – or anti-CA. Yet you
constantly lash out about TDS. Project much
You don’t think people care anymore? I think
they care a LOT and I think you can see it, and
I don’t think you like it, and I think it causes
you to lash out and project. One of us will be
right about how America feels and one will be
wrong. Last time I was wrong, I underestimated
how gullible the electorate was and how good of
a salesmen trump was. Sleepy Joe and the Harris
shit show certainly didn’t help. Everything I
was afraid of has already come true so I wasn’t
wrong or fear-mongering about of that. I think
people gave trump a chance and they see the shit
show he has made of virtually everything he ran
on, except with the hopefully small faction of
extremists who condone his deportation policies.
I’m hopeful that now that they know what they
look like and knowing it will only get worse as
far as a police state goes aren’t stoked with
what they see. Are you? Thats another rhetorical
question I think I know the answer.
Are you really discounting what happened to Paul
Pelosi and don’t think it would compare to
losing Kirk if Paul ad died in the attack?
That’s a rhetorical question and very telling.
Well, I guess we'll have to wait and see with
the midterms – how have the special elections
gone so far in all the trump maga regions?
Ok
brother Facebook User lets slow down on the hate
and tamp down the devise rhetoric and let’s try
and agree we are NOT at war, regardless what the
talking heads on the right are saying. Just this
one time lets listen to the left and focus on
unity and solutions.
\end rant_retort
Facebook User2
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Ian Fitz-Gibbon
I
couldn't get through it all. I'm NOT sorry to be
blunt, but there are too many lies, assumptions
and misinformation in your post to correct it
all..."tens of millions of people"
Is
that a "fact". Talk about someone ratcheting up
the "rhetorical heat." I'm glad I don't live in
your world Scott. I hope the rest of the world
doesn't end up reading this or hearing
interviews with your roommate on the news. In
case people are tempted to believe your
rant...here's something showing political
violence broken into party's.
Paul Fitz-Gibbon III
Ian Fitz-Gibbon LOL
Read down Ian. I got this. I read it so you
didn't have to - chk your texts broham
I've
been trying as hard as possibile to stay out the
fray since the election but then I saw this and
HOLY F*CK!! Somebody has to speak up and
try and tamp down all these baseless accusations
and violent hate or at least pick the reality
from bullshit. I'm curious to see the pretzel
logic to come. Release the trump/Epstien Files
AND Emails ~out NFM
Ian Fitz-Gibbon
I
wonder why Trump wants as few people to vote as
possible, including eliminating mail-in voting?
If what you say is true, Trump shouldn't have to
cheat in any future elections and he should want
as many people to vote as possible; Every form
of voting would be in the Republicans
favor...including mail-in voting.
Facebook Use 3
I
live in Berkeley, which has an overwhelmingly
progressive population. I have seen NO ONE
celebrating Charlie Kirk's murder. Not a single
person. Please stop making shit like this up.
Just stop.
Paul Fitz-Gibbon III
Facebook Use 3 Yeah
none of my friends in left-leaning Brentwood are
celebrating Kirks murder or talking violence
either. And in my OC circle, it’s only coming
from the Right, but they don’t see it.
Ian Fitz-Gibbon
Paul Fitz-Gibbon III If
you are wrong, someone here will directly
address it. I am waiting....ad hominin replies
don't count.
Paul Fitz-Gibbon III
Yeah Ian, I don’t expect much of a response from
Facebook User 1, Eventually, he’ll call
me a libtard or express his condolences for my
TDS.
,
He couldn’t defend his positions before the
election, how the hell could he now, especially
when virtually everything I was afraid of
happening has either happened or is about to
happen. I wonder if anyone even read the copy of
project 2025 I uploaded – doubtful, they just
denied it was the plan. not that they would know
but it was pretty self-evident for anyone with
just a modicum of reasoning. Meanwhile it's
about halfway completed and our country is
falling apart faster than a trump casino. But
crypto is up and the grift is good!!
Look at his FB wall. Could you imagine having
your entire identity and persona wrapped around
trump and his policies, and then in this short
of a period of time, having to try and defend
that to anyone except your own small echo
chamber?
Our country is turning into an actual shit show.
(that’s my word of the day all week - shit
show.) Crime, Economy, Groceries, Health Care -
RXs, Immigration, Domestic Security, Foreign
Policy, Leadership, Morals Anything!?! I just
want to have a constructive conversation about
how any of that can be better under our current
Pedophile Protector, and how it’s worth giving
up Scott's morals, common sense, and our
democracy and constitution. It's gotta be hard
to explain just that alone.
And them BAM!! More news about how inept our new
FBI is and the realization that trump is putting
some of his woefully unqualified golf buddies
and sycophants in some pretty dangerous
positions where they are undenibly in WAY over
their head. Putin and Russia come to mind. Even
Scott can recognize that.
And then the stuff about the BIPARTISAN
investigating committee agreeing that NO
somebody did not forge trumps sig on the
infamous birthday card and sketch of a
pre-pubescent girl 20 years ago and hide it in
epstiens estate so it could be uncovered and
used now 20 some odd yrs later and YES it is
trumps sig. and yes there probably will be way
more salacious stuff coming out – like it would
really matter at this point.
And then to have your guy dig up all this
epstein shit on his own that was almost long
buried.
I
wonder what he’s going to do when the rest of
the trump/epstien/Ghislaine emails, and files
the committee has are made public. and what?! A
pic of topless chicks on trumps lap laughing and
pointing at his come-stained pants (that’s
unconfirmed, but I believe it and called that
they will come out in 30 days about 45 days ago)
I think we'll see if BOTH eptiens and his
autobiographer is telling the truth.
Will Scott disavow trump and stay as a maga
member or just give trump a full pedo pass
mulligan like he did for the Hollywood Access
Tapes.
And now he's got 2 left-wing bros start talking
common sense on his own FB page. That’s gotta
suck.
It’s scary. He actually believes the violence is
coming from the left more than the right. Now or
in the last 10 years when absolutely every
metric says otherwise, unless your guy fires the
person who reports that metric. Which trump
actually did. In addition to firing the head of
Labor and Stats, he fired the people who study
Domestic and White Supremist/Nationalist
Terrorism. The BIGGEST THREAT TO OUR COUNTRY and
he just fired everybody. And I see people sayin
the left has blood on their hands. Just stop!!
The right has no leg to stand on regarding
crime, there are so many things they could do
different if they did.
Cooking the books like a business. Like that’s
going to change the outcome.
The only violence coming from the left is a
violent call for unity.
Facebook User 4
A
violent or virulent call for unity?
Let’s unite with the MAGA by calling their
president a fascist, dictator, pedophile. Let’s
unite by calling the assassination “horrible”
and “disgusting “ and we are so sad…. BUT….
But what?
There is no but about what happened!
You call people on the right fascist and you
dehumanize them. Don’t know anything more
fascist than that.
Don’t be claiming the moral high ground when you
never even listened to a word Charlie said!
Charlie was a uniter!
You are far from that by judging someone who I
can guarantee you never even heard.
The biggest threat to our country is people like
you who judge others by the hat they wear!
It’s not that you can’t handle the truth…. You
can’t even handle challenging or potentially
constructive dialogue which is what Charlie
espoused.
Paul Fitz-Gibbon III
Facebook User 4
Nice Projection. You know how I know. I haven’t
called your pres anything other than a pedo
protector. I haven’t typed the word fascist in
over 2 weeks. Do you even know what a fascist
is? I’ll enlighten you, Your the one projecting
fascist and dictator, guilty conscience??
But but but what yes, I agree there are no buts
about what you speak.
Charlie was a uniter? That’s just ignorant and
shows how much you know about Charlie. Huh? With
all due respect. He was literally killed because
of the hate he fomented. Have you seen the
killers texts yet? It’ll probably take awhile
for fox to come up with some kind of narrative
as to why a gay white dude from a gun toting
MAGA family took out Charlie but you’ll see soon
enough
“
The biggest threat to our country is people like
you who judge others by the hat they wear!”
Says the guy whos president just got approved by
the SCUTUS to racially profile the shit out our
country
“You can’t even handle challenging or
potentially constructive dialogue which is what
Charlie espoused.”
More crazy talk proving you haven’t read a word
I’ve typed I’ve been literally begging for
Facebook User 1 to try and defend his
position and assertations for 2 days. I’d be
willing to that with you but I don’t think you
have the temerity
BTW heres a definition of what fascist means
He
refused to accept a democratic loss and spread
lies about fraud.
He
pressured state officials (e.g., Georgia’s
secretary of state) to “find votes.”
He
pushed Mike Pence to break the Constitution by
rejecting certified results.
He
then encouraged a mob that stormed the Capitol
to stop the transfer of power.
This combination—rejecting democratic outcomes,
demanding loyalty to the leader over the law,
and using mass mobilization with violence to
maintain power—is exactly the kind of
authoritarian behavior that scholars like Robert
Paxton (author of The Anatomy of Fascism)
describe as fascistic.
Facebook User 4
Once again…. I can tell you never watched or
listened to Charlie cause if you did you’d have
a different perspective unless you are a callous
brainwashed kook. You never watched or listened
to a full context video of him and you got no
facts. It takes balls to listen to debate and
deduce facts and opinions on your own. I stand
with my convictions that Charlie was not a
racist or a fascist or all this bs You claim him
to be but I cant converse with you cause you
never saw the movie.
Paul Fitz-Gibbon III
Facebook User 4 you
obviously don’t know me. Actually I’ve been
following Kirk for a couple three years now. I
can tell you the most popular things he stands
for I can tell you what he’s most misquoted on.
I can tell probably tell you the reason you like
him. Hell I can even tell you where he met his
wife. Really touching story, look it up. I’ve
always had respect for him. OK what facts do you
want to talk about? We can bring this to your
page and I promise I won’t call you any names no
ad hominem attacks. Pick out anything I’ve said
and let’s talk about it - you know like a
republican and an independent sitting at a bar
discussing politics and opinions. The kind of
discussions where bartenders learn more than
their TVs tell them
Facebook User 4
Paul Fitz-Gibbon III I
have no problem with that. I really don’t care
about any of the Trump bashing. It’s about
Charlie to me. If you listened to him and you
still think he’s a racist then I don’t think we
will ever see eye to eye. I like bourbon but
beer is just fine.
Paul Fitz-Gibbon III
Facebook User 4
WTF? Where did I call him a racist? Now you just
making shit up and trying to shift the narrative
- where did you learn that?
I'm bummed for Charlie and his Friends. That was
just so wrong. Reading those casual texts from
that duche bag to his gay lover about murdering
someone is just sickening - We can all agree on
that, but he wasn't exactly a saint like the
right is making him out to be. A great leader?
Absolutely! As you know, he also had a lot of
radical viewpoints
I
agreed with him on some things, others not so
much. We've all seen the stuff he stood for
recently - yes, some taken out of context a
little ON BOTH SIDES. The thing about Charlie is
everything he stood for is online in his own
words, so there's that. I've seen short 20 sec
Charlie clips of him seemingly making a great
point and then cutting out only to see the
persons response on other news sources. As you
know, Cambridge students come to mind. If it's
about Charlie for you then we can stop. I know
there is way too much pain and raw emotion
still. I respect that. For me it's about
Democracy, Decency and a Fuctioning Republic ALL
of which are at risk right now IMHO.
RELEASE THE tRUMP - ePSTIEN - gHISLANE EMAILS,
PHOTOS and FILES!!
Facebook User 4
Fascism? Has anyone at the news media you
consume been put in jail for their views? Has
the government come down on anyone who disagrees
with them? Is the view still on the air and
their left wing agenda still earning Whoopi
money? Show me where the Fascism is bro!!
THREE DAYS
LATER CRICKETS?
CRICKETS??
CRICKETS?
CRICKETS?
CRICKETS? CRICKETS?
CRICKETS?
Paul Fitz-Gibbon III
>> Facebook User 1
This is not
about being right or wrong it’s about
understanding.
I’m not going to crow about crickets but
the silence is deafening.
For those that havn’t seen it, it should
be required reading – but please read my reply
as well
Scroll down Facebook User1 page to
Sept 14th
“(Warning: long rant) My
liberal friends are completely oblivious”
Facebook User2 and Greg H
(who blocked me because he was so flustered)
whose utter inability to defend any of his
misleading stmnts and divisive words (I blame
our leaders Rhetoric, that’s not the Facebook
User1 I know) should cause everyone to look
inside right now.
I think everyone in the middle needs to
ask why there is no response to what I posted,
and think very hard if this is what they voted
for.
Seriously mid terms are coming up, baby needs
new shoes…..er I mean bike needs new knobbies.
PLEASE start paying
attention watch the other sides news see what
they are saying.
forget Faux and MSNBC Try
some non traditional sources on Youtube, Brian
Taylor Cohen, Miedas Touch, Adam Mockler, Glen
Kirscner, then try Alex Jones Infowars and Steve
Bannons War Room, and def listen to JD on
Charlies show, if last night was any indication
they should be very telling just make sure the
batteries are fresh in your bullshit detector
and remember Google or Grok is your friend Use
Them!
What are you watching? who else should I
watch?
Try and figure out which
side is being more inflammatory and truthful
cause that really does matter so do facts.
Use reasoning.
I’ll do the same, let me know where you
guys are getting your info from?
How sure are you that its true how often
do you fact check?
BTW, If someone can find
any misinformation, I may be spreading
inadvertently please point it out, I just want
to learn and understand, but bring facts no
blanket ad hominen stmnts.
I recommend if something really triggers
you look where the other side is coming from.
Also use Elons AIs search engine Grok.
Its hilarious when Elon disputes trump.
BTW Facebook User 1 I appreciate your restraint
on your page today and always love your
nostalgic posts.
NFM I’ll go away now – at least till the
mid terms.
Epstein DEEP DIVE
https://www.facebook.com/reel/605582745936900
COMPLETE BIRTHDAY
BOOK
see it for yourself in its entirety
http://fitzgbros.com/epstein-birthdaybook.pdf
See everything the oversight Committee has.
https://oversight.house.gov/release/oversight-committee-releases-records-provided-by-the-epstein-estate-chairman-comer-provides-statement/
GOT KOMPROMOT
see what Putin has on trumpedo
https://www.closertotheedge.net/p/what-putin-has-on-trump